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Tall people join the overweight in protests about airline plans for a Fat Tax
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Posted on 02/03/2010 at 16:58 by Gary Wright
From Blog pictures KOS Media
Fat people are set to face a hefty cash penalty when they travel as profit-hungry airlines try to cram more people onto flights.

Most of us may agree, but this week tall people came out in support of the overweight.

I fail to see the link. One group of people are unfairly penalised because they have ridiculously long legs and need more space. Not their fault, just genes.

The other group have made a lifestyle choice that means they take up two seats… that’s just greedy and inconsiderate to fellow travellers.

Charging porkies more makes sense to me and to the 76 per cent of people who were in favour of a ‘Fat Tax’ according to travel search website Skyscanner.net.

Cry discrimination all you want but chubsters who don’t fit standard airline seats should be prepared for heavier ticket prices. “Simples,” as the meerkat would say.

Anyone who has suffered long flights with the person in the next seat flowing over the armrest knows it makes sense. If you choose to pack more than the luggage allowance, you pay more, so the same rule should apply to excess bingo wings.

But the lure of cheap Sangria and a Mediterranean fry up mean that fatties are not going to roll over and take it (they probably can't).

And this week their first supporters' group joined them: the tall.

Lanky Simon James, a 6ft 5ins man from Edinburgh warned that airlines already discriminate against the tall.

He said: “Everyone’s talking about ‘fat tax’ but ‘tall tax’ has been around for years. I always request an exit row seat, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get one. On many budget carriers, I have to pay for the privilege of choosing a seat or boarding first.”

Yet in the next breath he seemed to be sticking the same boot into the fleshy behind of fatties as everyone else.

Simon said: “I have sympathy for overweight people, but at least the vast majority of them can lose weight if they choose. Tall people can’t get any shorter. People come in all shapes and sizes, and airlines should accommodate us all.”

Nice one. ‘The vast majority of them can lose weight’…

Many airlines charge significant premiums for seats with extra leg room, for example Qantas charges an additional $160 on some flights for an exit seat.

Kevin Smith, famed American film director and actor, was the latest passenger to get involved in the airline ‘fat tax’ row after he was ejected from a Southwest Airlines flight after his bulk was deemed a ‘safety risk’.

If he was between me and the aisle, I’d agree too.

Airlines should just get on with it, fit some bigger seats and charge according to weight and waist measurement. Of course there could be a sliding discount: Fat mum sitting between her two little kids will still be three seats, she can overflow and they’ll be used to the smell.

Survey boss Barry Smith, Skyscanner co-founder and development director, said:

“There’s a fine line here between discrimination against any body type that is outside of a narrowing norm, and simple economic viability.

“The danger is that airlines will continue to squeeze us into ever shrinking seats, and charge all but the shortest, thinnest passengers a premium for extra room.”

Not a danger, look around you, it’s going to happen.

If you want to save cash flying? Lose a few pounds…well stone.
Posted on 16/03/2010 at 10:16 by Rebecca Weinstein

This is a very difficult issue for people of size. What has been missing from much of the discussion is the human element. We can argue over health and economics, policy and politics, but the reality is in America and all over the world, there are millions of large people who wish to live productive lives in societies that condemn them based on their size.

There are no easy answers and quick fixes, either for weight issues or accommodations. But while we are debating, it seems only logical that we support all of these people to be productive members of society - not ostracized and not prohibited from contributing. There is a destructive irony in these discussions; while arguing over whether people of size are a burden, we limit their contribution and productivity.

That makes no sense, politically or economically. Whatever a person's size, it only makes sense to support active participation in all aspects of life, free from limiting prejudice.

Rebecca Weinstein, Esq, MSW
President, PeopleOfSize.com
http://www.peopleofsize.com

PeopleOfSize .com, Portland

Posted on 27/03/2010 at 19:35 by Mr Bown

I am 6' 10" tall, yes I am a little over weight, but if I wasn't I would look ill.  I am being discriminated against because of my height.  Even for driving, as I can not have a three door car, because my children or other passenger would not be able to sit behind me.  So I have to buy a large family car to accomadiate this fact so get to pay high charges, I bang my head on door frames as they are to low.  Now as I am over six foot tall, I am now going to have to pay more for a seat on a plane so I can enjoy some time away from this country that doesn't care for the right people.  I pay my taxes and work full time.  I don't claim benefits, but am being treated like a criminal, because of my height and weight.  I feel sorry for my two children as both will be over 6 foot tall.

Thanks very much, for making pay to have a holiday.  Change these policies ASAP, or you will be losing more business.

 

Many thanks

Posted on 05/04/2010 at 20:53 by spritchard

I flew on four airplanes in the past two weeks.   Two of them were inter-continental flights from SFO > Frankfurt (and return).  In an effort to not be gravely uncomfortable, I purchased tickets that would allow an upgrade - cost $420 USD.  Once at the airport, I was advised that I could buy a Business Class ticket for $700+USD - I'm not in a postition to pay for that, plus I wanted to sit next to my wife.  I had purchased and Economy Plus Annual subscription for $425 USD hoping this would solve the problem with the "up to 5 extra inches of legroom." 

The poor woman in front of me tried to recline her seat and was greeted with my knees, which (after nine knee surgeries) hurt. So not only did I have to be a contortionist and jeopardize the safety of people traveling down the isle because my leg was there, this woman's flight was uncomfortable as well.

The "5 extra inches" is compared to the rest of coach which lost 3-5 inches after the airlines took the room away by adding extra rows...so it really is all relevant. 

I am a relatively fit man in my mid 30's. Thankfully, my wife is small and I can steal some of her foot space. 

I am "taxed" every time I want comfort.  Whether it be buying an Exit Row ticket, a subscription to "5 extra inches" or a Business Select on a bargain US carrier - a change must come. 

Priority seating in bulkhead or exit row should be given to those who are over 6'2" (or so) and able to carry out the duties required for that seating.  Alternatively, a reduced rate should be made available for an upgraded ticket. 

If around the world, taller citizens as well as those who are, frankly , inconvenienced by our size come to accept some simple realities - flying can become a much more pleasant experience.

Posted on 07/04/2010 at 00:37 by Medway Fat Bloke
I don't think fat people should pay extra to fly because I'm fat. I'm guessing Gary doesn't think stupid people should pay extra to fly. 
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